{ "schema": "ghf-wdtk-thread/1", "id": "WB-0405", "ev": "EV-0605", "slug": "freedom_of_information_request_a_2133", "title": "Freedom of Information Request – Administrative Records for BP Properties Ltd v Buckler (1974)", "authority": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133", "wdtk_status": "Partially successful", "status": "partially successful", "references": [ "FOI 260201005", "IR 260226049" ], "sent": "2026-01-28", "last_message": "2026-04-11", "outcome": "Not held by the MoJ as a public authority; records would be court records; preserved records would be at Glamorgan Archives.", "deadlines": [ { "label": "Response (20 working days)", "from_": "2026-02-01", "due": "2026-02-27", "answered": "2026-02-26", "result": "met" }, { "label": "Internal review (20 working days)", "from_": "2026-02-26", "due": "2026-03-26", "answered": "2026-03-26", "result": "met" } ], "counts": { "messages": 9, "sent": 4, "received": 5, "attachments": 3 }, "messages": [ { "n": 1, "wdtk_anchor": "outgoing-2007260", "direction": "sent", "date": "2026-01-28T06:45:43+00:00", "from": "Requester", "summary": "Request for administrative court records (case numbers, cause lists, register entries, retention data) for BP Properties Ltd v Buckler, Cardiff County Court, July and October 1974.", "response_class": "request", "body_public": null, "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#outgoing-2007260", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 2, "wdtk_anchor": "incoming-3289580", "direction": "received", "date": "2026-01-28T06:45:49+00:00", "from": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "summary": "Automated receipt from the MoJ Disclosure Team mailbox.", "response_class": "acknowledgement only", "body_public": "This is an automated confirmation that your email has been received by the\nDisclosure Team (Ministry of Justice) mailbox. Please be aware, this team\ndeals with a high volume of emails.\nPlease note this email address is for requests for recorded information\nunder the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and non-offender subject\naccess requests under Data Protection Act 2018 (DPA)/General Data\nProtection Regulation (GDPR).\nFreedom of Information requests\nYou can expect a response within 20 working days.\nSubject Access Requests\nYou can expect an initial response within 1 calendar month.\nAny other types of queries/requests, will be handled accordingly.", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#incoming-3289580", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 3, "wdtk_anchor": "incoming-3289602", "direction": "received", "date": "2026-01-28T08:17:11+00:00", "from": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "summary": "Reply: court records are held by the court for its own purposes; contact the court; if held by the MoJ, likely exempt under s.32.", "response_class": "redirected elsewhere (s.32 mentioned)", "body_public": "Morning,\nWe understand that the information you have requested relates to a court or tribunal case. Please contact the relevant court or tribunal directly to request access to these documents under the appropriate Procedure Rules. You can find contact details here:\nhttps://www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal\n.\nPlease note that the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) gives individuals the right to request recorded information held by public authorities. However, FOIA does not apply to information held by courts and tribunals for the purposes of judicial proceedings. This includes case files, court records, and correspondence relating to judicial decisions.\nIf you would still like us to consider your request under FOIA, please let us know. However, please be aware that the information you have requested is likely not to be held by the MOJ in the first place; this is because court and tribunal records are very often held by a court and tribunal for their own purposes only. It is likely, therefore, that any FOIA outcome from the MOJ will be that we Do Not Hold the data.\nIf such information is held by the MOJ it is likely to be exempt from disclosure under Section 32 of the FOIA, which exempts information from disclosure under the FOIA if it is held by the MOJ only by virtue of it being contained in a court or tribunal record.\nIn either situation, there exists another, more appropriate way to request access court or tribunal records, i.e. through the appropriate Procedure Rules.\nKind regards\nDisclosure Team\nSecurity and Information Directorate\nService Transformation Group\nMinistry of Justice", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#incoming-3289602", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 4, "wdtk_anchor": "outgoing-2009242", "direction": "sent", "date": "2026-02-01T10:19:08+00:00", "from": "Requester", "summary": "Asks for a formal response under the Act and for administrative records to be treated separately from judicial content.", "response_class": "follow-up", "body_public": null, "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#outgoing-2009242", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 5, "wdtk_anchor": "incoming-3315104", "direction": "received", "date": "2026-02-18T16:02:54+00:00", "from": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "summary": "Request logged as FOI 260201005; response due 27 February 2026.", "response_class": "acknowledgement only", "body_public": "Dear [requester],\nFreedom of Information Act (FOIA) Request – 260201005\nThank you for your request dated 1 February 2026.\nYour request is being handled under the FOIA.\nThe MoJ is required under section 10(1) of the FOIA to provide you with a\nresponse within 20 working days. Therefore, we aim to provide a response\nto your request by 27 February 2026.\nIn the event we can not meet the deadline we will inform you as soon as\npossible.\nYours sincerely\nOperational Support - Knowledge and Information Liaison Officer", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#incoming-3315104", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 6, "wdtk_anchor": "incoming-3323064", "direction": "received", "date": "2026-02-26T09:41:36+00:00", "from": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "summary": "Response FOI 260201005 (letter attached): the MoJ as a public authority holds no information in scope; any records would be court records held by the court.", "response_class": "not held", "body_public": "Dear [requester],\nPlease see the attached response to your request (our reference 260201005)\nRegards\nOperational Support - Knowledge and Information Liaison Officer\nNational Support Unit - HM Courts & Tribunals Service", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#incoming-3323064", "attachments": [ { "wb": "WB-0412", "title": "HMCTS / MoJ FOI 260201005 response: not held by the MoJ as a public authority (1974 court records)", "url": "https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate/pdf/evidence/2026-02-26_hmcts_foi-260201005-response.pdf", "mime": "application/pdf", "original_filename": "FOI260201005 Response.pdf", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133/response/3323064/attach/3/FOI260201005%20Response.pdf", "note": null } ] }, { "n": 7, "wdtk_anchor": "outgoing-2026024", "direction": "sent", "date": "2026-02-26T15:43:52+00:00", "from": "Requester", "summary": "Internal review requested under s.17(7).", "response_class": "internal review request", "body_public": null, "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#outgoing-2026024", "attachments": [] }, { "n": 8, "wdtk_anchor": "incoming-3357720", "direction": "received", "date": "2026-03-26T09:41:06+00:00", "from": "HM Courts and Tribunals Service (Ministry of Justice)", "summary": "Internal review 260226049 (letter attached): original decision maintained; records selected for preservation would have gone to Glamorgan Archives, the place of deposit for Cardiff County Court records.", "response_class": "complaint outcome (not held; redirected to Glamorgan Archives)", "body_public": "Dear [requester]\nPlease see the attached response to your request (our reference 260226049)\nRegards\nOperational Support - Knowledge and Information Liaison Officer\nNational Support Unit | HMCTS\n[1]gov.uk/hmcts\nHM Courts & Tribunals Service logo\n[2]Here is how HMCTS users your data", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#incoming-3357720", "attachments": [ { "wb": "WB-0414", "title": "Email signature logo", "url": "https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate/images/evidence/2026-03-26_hmcts_email-signature-logo-3357720-3.png", "mime": "image/png", "original_filename": "image001.png", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133/response/3357720/attach/3/image001.png", "logo": true }, { "wb": "WB-0413", "title": "HMCTS internal review 260226049: not held; preserved records would be at Glamorgan Archives", "url": "https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate/pdf/evidence/2026-03-26_hmcts_internal-review-260226049.pdf", "mime": "application/pdf", "original_filename": "Buckler 260226049 FOI IR response.pdf", "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133/response/3357720/attach/4/Buckler%20260226049%20FOI%20IR%20response.pdf", "note": null } ] }, { "n": 9, "wdtk_anchor": "outgoing-2054713", "direction": "sent", "date": "2026-04-11T20:00:46+01:00", "from": "Requester", "summary": "Notes the review outcome; concerns about the search for administrative metadata; considering the ICO.", "response_class": "follow-up", "body_public": null, "wdtk_url": "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133#outgoing-2054713", "attachments": [] } ], "archived": "2026-10-21", "statement": "", "site": "https://whatdotheyknow.bucklerfamily.estate/r/freedom_of_information_request_a_2133/", "thread_json": "https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate/text/evidence/wdtk/2026-01-28_wdtk-hmcts_freedom-of-information-request-a-2133.json", "wiki": "https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence/ev-0605-whatdotheyknow-hmcts-bp-properties-v-buckler-1974-records/" }